Many Republican Ghostbusters Still Believe ACORN Stole this Election, Too!

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Quito      First there was a Facebook posting to me that I thought was a joke, complete with a picture of James O’Keefe in his racist pimp-master fur suit.  But, then the emails started coming in, and it was increasingly clear, that, yes, Virginia, there may not be a Santa Claus, but according to the weird and whacky Republican Party base, there is still an ACORN and it’s alive and dangerous.

A poll by the reputable and respected North Carolina-based outfit, Public Policy Polling, threw in a ringer question on a poll of 700 or so, not a huge sample, but not trivial either, about whether or not respondents believed that ACORN had stolen the election for President Obama in the recent 2012 election.  Aliens from another planet might wonder, “why did they ask?,” but many will remember that in a similar set of polls after Obama won in 2008, more than 52% of Republicans surveyed believed that ACORN had just done that.  Polls conducted throughout the first Obama term that included the question on election theft by ACORN continued to persistently record a hardcore number that refused to believe anything else.

Well, it’s back!  The rightwing obsession with ACORN continues unabated.  This time 49% of the Republicans who responded thought that ACORN had stolen the election.  Many of the bloggers and ha-ha-ha folks in the political cognoscenti of course point out that the ACORN corporation went out of business in the United States two years and one month ago, by which they mean, ha-ha-ha, “how could this have been possible?”  Perhaps in this case the Republicans have this righter than the Democrats and understand that despite how preposterous it is to believe that ACORN stole the election, the ACORN spirit and enterprise is still very much alive and well, which it surely is, and I can guaran-damn-tee that!

In fairness to the Republicans, who god knows have their own problems in addition to their obsession with being Ghostbusters, Alexander  Abad-Santos points out in the Atlanticwire.com that there is almost as much mischief in this particular poll question as there is in the ACORN attack:

Alexander Abad-Santos  Dec 4, 2012

The funniest poll of the afternoon comes from the folks over at Public Policy Polling, who have results that are new and legitimate results (if a bit heavy on the forced fantasy questions) finding that 49 percent of Republicans and six percent of Democrats believe ACORN stole the 2012 election for Barack Obama — despite the pesky fact that ACORN folded in 2010. How … wait … huh?

We get it: This is supposed to be one of those what-if polls that indicates how voters will believe anything. “We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn’t exist anymore,” writes the team at PPP.

But that isn’t 100-percent fair. We don’t dispute the results from what we now know to be one of the most accurate pollsters in the game, but throwing a silly fact out there like that isn’t exactly fair considering the questioning. What’s important to remember is that 100 percent of the 700 people who were asked the ACORN question were prompted the ACORN theory by PPP itself:

So, yeah, regardless of political rancor and in the spirit of American intellect, we’re shooting for a 100-0-0 here. But by putting that question out there and those three options, you’re skewing results. And we don’t know if Republicans are coming up with this conspiracy theory organically:

All that laid out, yes, 100-0-0 should be what we’re looking for across the board. And, yes, that 49% is disheartening, but let’s not forget this question: Who are the 6 percent of Democrats and 2 percent of people who voted for Obama who think ACORN stole the whole thing?

Ok, Ok, so it’s a little bit of a hoot using the still formidable ACORN brand and it’s deep base of support not only in lower income communities throughout the USA, but increasingly around the world, where ACORN International continues to toil in the vineyards of many cities, communities, and mega-slums, but all I’ll say is that the Republicans, and perhaps the Democrats, are right to worry.  Not about election stealing since that never happened, but about the fact that the heart and spirit of ACORN is still very much alive, and, you just don’t know, but it could be coming again to a town near you someday soon!

 

Paul Ryan: OMG, Where is Sarah Palin When We Need Her?!?

Missoula  Coming off the river after a great 10 days of fishing and fun, topped off by a pig roast and hootenanny with good friends, old and new, we headed into our Missoula home away from home, the Break Café and Bakery, our favorite local coffeehouse, though we wish the coffee were better….Plug in all of the electronics since they are screaming for juice, and as the emails start pouring in it becomes clear that the Tea Party and Little Government intellectual and ideologically dogmatic Congressman from Wisconsin, Paul Ryan, is destined to be Governor Romney’s vice presidential pick – OMG what a kick in the guts:  it just takes your breath away!   Now we have toadying to the rich and Wall Street at the top of the ticket and wet kisses to the most reactionary of the Republican regressive reprobates at the bottom of the ticket with Ryan.   Sarah Palin, where are you when we need you, we have now gone from the ridiculous to the obscene.

On the upside, we can’t say there’s not a clear choice now, if anyone had thought that.  Romney has suddenly made a statement to the hard right that is a big sloppy kiss, and to the rest of us has been clear that there is no longer a “moderate” George anywhere around.  It’s ass kicking time, and it’s our butts that have a bull’s-eye for his foot.

Social security, Medicaid, social services, and safety nets, Ryan is clear with his no compromising, “cut first, look later” style that there’s no hope for any of these constituencies from the sick to the seniors if this team emerges victorious.  They would be S.O.L!  Uh, that means, we would all be S.O.L.

If there had been any warm fuzzy headed doubters before, that’s all over, Grover.  It’s the battle of the knifes now, and it’s ON!

Election Predictions around the Campfire

Rock Creek   Put a bunch of community, labor, and political organizers along with retired political science profs around a roaring campfire in Montana, lubricate well, and I’ll guarantee you there will be political discussions and fiercely expressed predictions around the upcoming elections.

First on tap was the local race with national impact, the re-election of Senator John Tester, Democrat from Montana essential to continuing control.  There were divided opinions here with some lamenting about the failure of  Testor to create a field program similar to the work that has been essential to Max Baccus success in the state, while others were impressed with the campaign finances and the air war that is in excellent shape.  Organizers were hopeful, but professors were confident that anything and everything would be done, and instructions had been clear from Washington to Helena to do make sure there is a “win” here.

Nevada:  called a win for Obama on a close race, but a loss for the Demo-Senate candidate.

Missouri:  feeling that Claire McCassell has successfully “picked” her Tea Party-ish Republican opposition, and is now in good shape to win.

Probably worth disclosing that Jim Messina, Obama’s campaign manager, is from Montana and personally well known around the campfire, so there’s a bias here that would not be so obvious elsewhere in the country.   A lot of admiration expressed for the targeting and use of data in the Obama campaign.  A lot of feelings that Messina is very, very comfortable and might actually prefer a campaign that goes negative early and often, but all of that is campfire talk as well.

A lot of relief expressed that polls are calling Wisconsin for Obama this week after indicating Pennsylvania was strongly Obama last week.  Colorado seems to be a toss-up, but many of the other battleground states still looked good around the campfire for Obama.

Being a worrier and getting confirmation that I was “right to worry” in a brief note the other day from Celinda Lake, super pollster for progressives for years, all of this was the most positive news I had heard about the Obama prospects in months, so it was reassuring, even if it didn’t make me sleep all that much better.   One organizer may have summarized it best by saying that “intellectually I’m troubled about the campaign, but emotionally, I have a strong feeling that Obama is going to win.”

So says the Rock Creek Campfire Caucus with four months counting!